tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5770450628194471768.post3755839197792774622..comments2023-04-24T11:33:39.731-04:00Comments on Anarchurious: ObligatoryCüneythttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09839492265797382364noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5770450628194471768.post-20522526856806264362011-09-15T00:02:06.819-04:002011-09-15T00:02:06.819-04:00Well, propaganda can form narrative, but what you&...Well, propaganda can form narrative, but what you're saying, Jack, is that it's becoming passively accepted? In short, they have come to believe the narrative they once consciously and ironically peddled. Is that what you're saying?Cüneythttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09839492265797382364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5770450628194471768.post-47585236726436189852011-09-12T17:59:25.343-04:002011-09-12T17:59:25.343-04:00I just think it's part of their narrative, now...I just think it's part of their narrative, now. Part of the dogma of a fabricated history. Sort of like what NFL Films does. It's self referential, but I don't think its propaganda, in the specific sense.Jack Crowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07499087036876745723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5770450628194471768.post-36711305829079657112011-09-12T15:07:27.444-04:002011-09-12T15:07:27.444-04:00Jack, it in this case refers to what I believe is ...Jack, it in this case refers to what I believe is a total psy-ops job on the 10 year anniversary. Starting with the memorializing, and also now including a bs story about Al Qaeda and the spectacle of beefing up police state security and searching cars. <br /><br />Are you saying that this is less propaganda, and more of a trial run of sorts? A reminder of the threat of the police state?Justinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02924326177370725150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5770450628194471768.post-59444245295044082652011-09-12T12:20:38.180-04:002011-09-12T12:20:38.180-04:00Justin,
If you don't look at it as propaganda...Justin,<br /><br />If you don't look at it as propaganda, the picture is clearer.Jack Crowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07499087036876745723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5770450628194471768.post-32098181665398775022011-09-12T12:09:29.321-04:002011-09-12T12:09:29.321-04:00I was horrified that the government put up such a ...I was horrified that the government put up such a crudely done reenactment with that BS 9/11 holiday scare from Al Qaeda. My initial reaction was to think it BS, but when I read the NY Times article, I saw that they aren't even trying to sound credible anymore. It was all US officials say, and all they had to say were vague, unsourced, ominous warnings about Al Qaeda threats on our national holiday of remembrance. <br /><br />The whole thing feels like a macabre, national seance. This is not a typical propaganda model bit of flotsam. This is that cruder form of propaganda, when the state begins directly controlling the message and barely bothers to try and sound credible to any discerning audience. More of these are popping up, like the Libya thing (Compared to the efforts spent promoting democracy fighting and freedom with the Iraq and Afghan wars.) In Libya, the pretenses to democracy and freedom were barely promoted and fell away almost immediately, as headlines blared that oil multinationals were jockeying for position in a post Qaddafi Libya and interventionists crowed the mission for proving success or failure to be the primary criteria for the rightness of an action. Might prevails in this land these days with hardly an effort to garb it in ideological robes. <br /><br />In other words, their propaganda is beginning to be less of the manufacturing consent model, and more of the big dumb kind in a Soviet police state.Justinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02924326177370725150noreply@blogger.com